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Dear folks, PAMMHO AGTSP,
Let us know if you wish to add other addresses or cancel your
subscription. PADA also may or may not endorse all of the statements
found in our featured letters. ALSO the names of the GBC as well as
accounts of their activities are sometimes unverfied at this point, we
are merely
allowing readers to express their experiences, and we encourage
others, including those named, to feedback/ comment. Comments/
corrections are also encouraged.
HISTORY DOCUMENT! We have got so many repeated questions where we have
had to repeat the answers that we decided to make a historical
document showing basically how we arrived at certain conclusions in a
sort of brief essay rather than a book. Please help us fill in
details, correct the dates etc. but keep in mind this is not a
comprehensive study of ISKCON but merely an illustration of points.
Major stories should be included and if we missed some, let us know.
We are sorry but we are not going to work on the regular newsletter
issues, unless something noteworthy comes up, until this is finished.
Thanks pd
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ALL PRABHUPADA's WORKS ON 2 DISKS
1) Contents of "JUDGE FOR YOURSELF" (JFY)
2) BIG ISLAND KIRTAN
3) BHAGVATAMS AVAILABLE
4) Poison issue
5) WINDLE TURLEY
6) HANSADUTTA SPEAKS
7) HISTORY 1976
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Does anyone have Urmilla's e-mail address? thanks ** dd
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ALL PRABHUPADA's WORKS ON 2 DISKS
From: "Pratyatosa Dasa" <email-address-deleted> Subject: Srila
Prabhupada's WMA/mp3PRO Two Disc Set
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 12:09:04 -0400
Dear Brahmananda Prabhu, please accept my humble obeisances. All
glories to Srila Prabhupada!
I finally succeeded in getting all of Srila Prabhupada's lectures/
conversations on *one* DVD using Windows Media (.wma) format! I used
12kbps, 16khz. The quality is excellent! I also put all of Srila
Prabhupada's music recordings on one CD using mp3PRO
(http://www.mp3prozone.com/) with no loss of quality whatsoever! Also
included in the "2 disc set" are transcriptions of all
lectures/ conversations, including those for which no MP3/WMA files
are yet available, in both .txt and .htm formats. Here are the indexes
of the WMA Lecture DVD and the mp3PRO Music CD: INDEX OF .wma FILES ON
DVD VOLUME "SPL-2003.4" (INCLUDING PLAYING TIMES) Total playing time:
842 Hours, 56 Minutes.
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1) Contents of "JUDGE FOR YOURSELF" (JFY) TO ALL CONCERNED FOLLOWERS
OF HIS DIVINE GRACE, SRILA PRABHUPADA
Dear devotees,
Please accept our humble obeisances. All Glories to His Divine Grace.
"Judge For Yourself" (JFY) is an important document for those
concerned with the "poison issue." This notice is being posted to
solicit an 'expression of interest.' The manuscript is ready and will
soon be in the hands of printers. When printed, the book will also
house a CD on the inside jacket. While the book (JFY) delivers
up-to-date documents/ evidence that has never been seen or heard
before, the CD contains all relevant Bengali/ Hindi translations and
forensically identified 'whispers' from the poison conversations at
Srila Prabhupada's bedside.
JFY is a nonprofit venture. All the hard work has already been done.
We simply ask devotees and friends to inform us how many
copies they would like to send to friends or other interested parties.
Once we have established a total printing figure, the cost
per book will be known. We will post this publicly and contact you
personally with order information as soon as printing costs have
been finalized, based on the total printing. We already have a
standing order for 2,000 copies. All orders from this point on will
help further bring down the printing cost. As mentioned before, this
is a nonprofit venture-- you are expected to pay for printing, CD,
and shipping costs only.
For all inquiries contact email-address-deleted Please find below, the
"Table of Contents" for JFY. Hare Krsna. "JUDGE FOR YOURSELF" (JFY)
Introduction: His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada,
Founder - Acarya of the International Society for Krishna
Consciousness
(ISKCON), in the last days of his physical presence, in late 1977,
made several statements that indicated directly and indirectly the
possibility of his being administered poison. His attending servants
and physicians confirmed this understanding in recorded
conversations at that time. Overwhelming evidence has since surfaced
regarding this issue, much of which has been unavailable or
misrepresented to the followers of Srila Prabhupada. This report
documents the recorded statements of His Divine Grace and those
present with him in November 1977, as well as all the evidence
available to date in its entirety, with objective commentary and
supporting documents. Please examine the facts and "Judge For
Yourself".
PART ONE: CHAPTER ONE: US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) States
Chronic Arsenic Poisoning Range 1 – 5ppm Srila Prabhupada Arsenic
Level – 2.6 ppm
Summary: The concentration of arsenic found in Srila Prabhupada's hair
clippings was determined by state-of-the-art, highly accurate, neutron
activation analysis. Concluded by expert opinion to be twenty times
higher than a normal average, the 2. 6 ppm concentration discovered is
certainly cause for alarm. Statements by various government, academic,
and scientific authorities confirm that levels in individuals with
chronic (arsenic) poisoning range between 1 and 5 ppm. Further, 2. 6
ppm ranges between dangerous and very dangerous.
CHAPTER TWO: SRILA PRABHUPADA'S PHYSICIANS SAY POISONING POSSIBLE AND
EVEN DEFINITE: SUMMARY
When specifically asked if Srila Prabhupada could have been poisoned,
several of the physicians that had treated him in late 1977 responded
in the affirmative, including the physician misquoted by NTIP: Dr
McIrvine of the United Kingdom. Their responses ranged from 'poisoning
being possible' to 'slow poisoning was diagnosed and reported.'
CHAPTER THREE: "THE RAVANA WILL KILL (ME)" (SRILA PRABHUPADA, NOV 10,
1977 CONVERSATIONS. SUMMARY, For the first time, followers of Srila
Prabhupada will be able to read/ hear the complete text of the
relevant "poison conversations," as well as enhancements of `whispers'
provided by top rated audio forensic engineers. This Chapter analyses
the documented "Conversations" with His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada,
just prior to his disappearance. The recordings are identified as
tapes T-44, 45 & 46. Transcripts of the tapes are available in a BBT
publication entitled: "Conversations with Srila Prabhupada Volume 36."
Tapes and book are available from the BBT Archives: Sandy Ridge, North
Carolina.
CHAPTER FOUR: TAMAL KRSNA INCRIMINATES HIMSELF AS WHISPERING: "THE
POISON'S GOING DOWN." SUMMARY This chapter deals with the audio
forensic evidence that identifies the whisper; "It's going down... the
poison's going down." Three top level audio forensic engineers in the
United States have identified the word 'poison' as a frequent
utterance. This chapter identifies the people in the room at the time,
and confirms Tamal Krsna's admittance to being the person who spoke
the whisper. It also deals with the statement of the GBC 'expert' who
they claimed denied the whisper. We show a signed statement by their
witness claiming that he was misquoted in the GBC book, "Not That I am
Poisoned."
PART TWO CHAPTER ONE: BHAVANANDA DAS (a.k.a Charles Bacis): EXPOSED
CHILD ABUSER NOW SUSPECT IN POISONING: Part Two of our report, deals
with "testimonies" offered by suspects and their supporters in the GBC
publication: "Not That I am Poisoned" (NTIP). SUMMARY With the death
of Tamal Krsna (a.k.a Thomas Herzig), Bhavananda Das becomes the next
living prime suspect in the poisoning of His Divine Grace, A. C
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Founder Acarya of the International
Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON). It was Bhavanada who was
standing beside Tamal Krsna, and closest to the tape recorder when the
whisper, "The poison's going down" was picked up on tape. From
position and voice identification, the giggle that follows the whisper
identifies Bhavananda as the person standing with Tamal Krsna.
CHAPTER TWO BHAKTICARU: THE FIRST DISCIPLE TO REPORT, "SOMEONE HAS
POISONED HIM." (Conversations. Vol. 36. Page 367. Nov. 1977)
Part Two; Chapter Two is a discrete study of the 'statement' by
Bhakticaru. Posted on the VNN website ('Let The Truth Prevail'
4/10/99), the statement was later added to the GBC book 'Not That I am
Poisoned" (NTIP, 121 p).
SUMMARY: Bhakticaru was appointed Srila Prabhupada's 'nurse' during
the final days. He was assigned to the position by Tamal Krsna
(Prabhupada's secretary). Surprisingly, his appointment had nothing to
do with medical accreditation (he had none). Although Bhakticaru has
made a statement in the GBC book (NTIP) that he believed the poison
allegation to be absurd, his audio taped statements in the presence
of Srila Prabhupada will show that he declared openly and publicly,
"Someone has poisoned him," meaning: someone had poisoned Srila
Prabhupada.
CHAPTER THREE/ TAMAL KRSNA CLAIMS THAT SRILA PRABHUPADA ASKED TO BE
POISONED (Recorded Conversation, Nov. 1977)
SUMMARY/ We analyse the writings of Tamal Krsna (a.k.a Thomas Herzig)
to show 1) How Srila Prabhupada has been portrayed as a personality so
weak, he "desired" to be murdered by Tamal Krsna. 2) How Tamal Krsna
depicted Srila Prabhupada as a soul so bereft of transcendental
understanding that he was willing to commit suicide; 3) How Tamal
Krsna actually admits the decision to allow Srila Prabhupada to live
or die, lay with him (Tamal Krsna); 4) How Tamal Krsna surreptitiously
doctored the "poison conversations" in an attempt to deflect suspicion
from himself and render the facts obsolete; 5) How Tamal Krsna
deliberately misled readers by editing himself out from the "Ram will
kill / Ravana will kill" conversation in his book, 'TKG's Diary'. We
also show excerpts from the taped conversation between Satsvarupa and
Tamal Krsna, in which Tamal Krsna says Srila Prabhupada asked him (TK)
to administer the poison.
PART THREE/ LETTERS OF CONCERN: Bhai Lal Patel, President of the
National Federation of Indian Associations- (NFIA). Ambarisa Das.
Naveen Krsna Das. Gupta Das. Ameyatma Das. APPENDIXES: For the first
time, we present documents that have never been shown to the public.
Most do not even know they exist.
APPENDIX 1/ BALAVANTA'S FORENSIC INVESTIGATION
REPORT TO THE GBC (VNN. 12TH FEB. 2000)
DR. J. STEPHEN MORRIS, Ph.D.
NUCLEAR ACTIVATION ANALYSIS
RICHARD T. CALLERY, M.D., F.C.A.P.
CHIEF EXAMINER
DIRECTOR, FORENSIC SCIENCE LABORATORY.
L. GOSWAMI
LABORATORY DIRECTOR
ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES & TESTING LABORATORY INC.
APPENDIX 2
OWL INVESTIGATIONS, INC.
THOMAS J. OWEN - PRESIDENT.
APPENDIX 3
INTERNATIONAL DETECTION SERVICES
STATEMENT: DAVID JAMES NEIL
APPENDIX 4
COMPUTER AUDIO ENGINEERING (C.A.E)
JOHN J. MITCHELL. OWNER/ENGINEER
SEGMENT REPORT- 1, 4 & PROCEDURE.
APPENDIX 5
HELEN A. McCAFFERY, Ph.D., CCC/A
SUMMARY REPORT
APPENDIX 6
CONVERSATION WITH FORENSIC EXAMINER
J. JACK MITCHELL/ NAVEEN KRISHNA DAS
APPENDIX 7
"CONVERSATIONS & WHISPERS" (TRANSLATIONS & FORENSIC)
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2) BIG ISLAND KIRTAN
Vidhagdha Madhava has compiled an hour CD from a collection of about 4
kirtan's I lead here on the Big Island over this year. Old IKCON
classics. If interested, contact Mata. She can have them made upon
request. Here address is above. email-address-deleted or Jean Prem
[email-address-deleted] or call her at 808 935-8829 and ask for
jagaddhatri. Raghu
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3) BHAGVATAMS AVAILABLE
Hare Krishna! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
The real price for the deluxe 12 volume Srila Prabhupada original
Bhagavatam set is $250. Our special discounted price on www.krishna.tv
is $175 the price of $125 which was announced last week is a mistake.
However we have been very inspired by seeing how many devotees have
purchased Srila Prabhupada's original Bhagavatam during the last week
and to give devotees who may not be able to afford it at the higher
price a chance to have Srila Prabhupada's Srimad-Bhagavatam in their
homes we are extending this crazy price for another 7 days only. It is
an impossible price, it is not available anywhere else and will never
be available again.
So for the next week only you can get the full, original, deluxe
edition of Srila Prabhupada's Srimad-Bhagavatam set for just $125.
After seven days this price will never be available again. It is a
mistake, it is not the correct price. We can ship the books anywhere
in the world very economically. So please take advantage of this. You
can place your order and get more information at www.krishna.tv The
direct link for the Bhagavatam page is: http://www.krishna.tv/SB
If you have any problems ordering or questions please write to me at
email-address-deleted
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4) POISON ISSUE
Please email your advance orders to me ....thank you ...Naveen.
(unless you have already done so with someone else ...that is fine
also). This book and CD is an important work in the continuation of
the investigation concerning the "POISON ISSUE". The CD itself will
reveal to
you the truth as spoken by Srila Prabhupada himself and his attending
servants. This is a must have if you consider yourself a follower of
Srila Prabhupada who wants to be aware of the seriousness of this
matter. I also need some advanced funding for paying for the printing,
which can be recovered as the books sell. I have $ 1000 committed if
the rest of you can pitch in to advance the other $1000 ...please see
how you can help. In the opinion of many, to bring the full truth out
in this matter is of utmost importance is saving Srila Prabhupada's
mission.. Many are risking their lives even pursuing this issue, what
to speak of financial sacrifices. Thank you once again. All enquires
should be addressed to BIF email-address-deleted. Thanks.
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5) WINDLE TURLEY
The Windle Turley case will siphon off large amounts of money -- from
the GBC -- and into the hands of some of the molested gurukulis. And
we think this is not a second too soon since some of the ex-kulis are,
quite frankly, depressed and discouraged by the whole thing. No
kidding. Maybe this will uplift them as a group a bit, and since some
of them also have serious difficulties, and there has been some
suicides, this will hopefully spread a little cheer throughout their
entire group. Again we hope so. We also think that if the GBC has this
money instead of the kulis, the GBC will simply mis-use it, as we have
seen, they simply keep their (hired) goondas on the side walk to beat
up "the Prabhupada devotees" whenever they can. So why should we be
happy to see these goonda activities funded -- anyway? And since some
of the GBC goondas are simply "paid-up help" from South America and so
on, many of them will leave their "service," if the "payment for
service" is halted? One of these goondas even told me once that, if I
was paying him, then he would protect me and attack the GBC? So that
means, loyal to money. Hired goondas.
Rather oddly there is still some sentimental attachment for the
material shell corporation called "ISKCON," and as such there are
still some dolts out there (such as Naranayana dasa) who are saying
that current ISKCON, yes even in its current status being managed by
the GBC (i.e. the enforced cult ritulistic worship of homosexual
pedophiles regime/ UMMM guru poisoners?) is "Prabhupada's body." WHAT!
Thus, they say that suing the current corporation called ISKCON is --
an attack on Prabhupada -- just like "Christian apologists" are saying
that "suing the Catholic Church is like suing Jesus," yes this is the
absolute truth at least according to these sentimentalists. No wonder
the molesting went on as it did with these apologists fighting off any
attempts to get justice as well? Don't ya get it, the Catholic Church
was sued because they tried to protect the corporation -- and not the
ideal? Form with no substance.
Of course the good news is that Srila Prabhupada was considered as a
deviant because he was opposed to the shell corporation of the Gaudiya
Matha? And rather unfortunately this corporation pooja is also what
Gaura Govinda, Sridhara and Narayana Maharaja said as well, you have
to serve (the empty corporation shell called) ISKCON. No, you have to
serve the pure devotees? Hello! And now the IRM has piped in as well,
Srila Prabhupada will be worshipped, but only as long as the
corporation called "ISKCON" -- "is extant"? Hah what? That is what
they said after 1977 as well, sure Tamal is a guru because he is in
ISKCON, so he is bona fide and you are out of ISKCON, so you do not
count? Corporation pooja? Of course what happens to their idea if the
corporation goes bankrupt, then their theory also goes bankrupt.
Mahatma dasa (LA) of course says that this IRM corporation pooja is
"brilliant writing" and their serving the GBC for 20 years as they did
is also brilliant? No, that is why the corporation is bankrupt, they
served the wrong idea? Is bankrupting the corporation "brilliant"?
Nooo!
More oddly, even Sanat and Mukunda, they also said that current ISKCON
should not be sued because whenever they visit ISKCON centers, they do
not see any of the ex-youth there? So they also link everything in
their teeny blind universe to the status of "the current ISKCON." Of
course why would the molested youth would want to hang out there, they
never explain? Not too surprisingly, these guys are lovers of
Naranarayan's ideas. So this is yet another example of the same
sentimentalism, "current ISKCON" is the axis point that the whole
world revolves around. Not! Sorry, this is all sentimentalism, and
besides, if the suicides had increased as they were, again, as they
were increasingly occuring before the suit was filed (the filing of
the Turley suit reduced the suicides), then, would not your precious
"current corporation shell of ISKCON" have been linked to that IN THE
MEDIA and have been harmed, anyway? Yes. I am always surprised that
folks say that children can get molested, and die, and who cares, as
long as the wonderful "current ISKCON" is not harmed? Well, what is
ISKCON?
And if you are not concerned for justice for molested children, what
kind of ISKCON are you trying to build? By the way now Narayana
Maharaja is apparently "siphoning off some of the ISKCON youth," no
kidding, many of these youth's parents adopted this corporation pooja
idea all along, and NM was a big architect of "keeping the GBC in
their guru seats," to "preserve ISKCON," nevermind that mass
molesting, embezzling, beatings and murders were going on. NM also
cited that "there is nothing wrong" with the homosexual guru program
of 1936 in his recent "Guru Tattva" booklet, so the parents agreed and
compromised, and now some of their children are beating the drum for
the molester pooja lineage and its backers. History repeats. thanks pd
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6) HANSADUTTA SPEAKS
(http://iskcon.krishna.org/Articles/2003/04/023.html) Reading
Jayadvaita's article really irritated me. What is his point? That
Hayagriva was not qualified as an editor? That Srila Prabhupada was
indifferent, stupid or lazy in copying others translations? Or, that
because Hayagriva and Srila Prabhupada were not physically side by
side for two years, there was some discrepancy in Hayagriva's work,
or, that Srila Prabhupada was unaware of what Hayagriva was doing, and
now (in Srila Prabhupada's absence) had to be corrected by Jayadvaita
Swami?
Is this his attempt to justify his envious infantile clerk like
editing of Prabhupada's Gita? What really is his point? What exactly
is Jayadvaita Swami trying to say? He is an office clerk at best, but
factually his meddling in the re-editing of Srila Prabhupada's works
is a sinister, diabolical attempt to undermine the efforts of the
Sampradaya Acharya. He is a putana attempting to usurp the pulpit of
the institution in the absence of the self realized soul, Srila
Prabhupada.
I was one BBT trustee along with Srila Prabhupada and Bali Mardan when
I went to Srila Prabhupada and suggested we reprint his Original
Bhagavatams for the pleasure of his devotees who liked the old Indian
version... Before finishing my proposal, Srila Prabhupada admonished
me saying, "no-- whatever Hayagriva has done is perfect, I have full
faith in him as the editor of my books." This was quite some time
after the publication of Srila Prabhupada's Bhagavad Gita. He went on
to say "whatever he (Hayagriva) has done is perfect, do not touch it,
I have full faith in him."
What more can be said about this matter? ISKCON spent hundreds and
thousands of dollars fighting in the court with me (Hansadutta) to
support Jayadvaita's bogus position, of re-editing Srila Prabhupada's
books. ISKCON was claiming Srila Prabhupada never was the proprietor
of the copyrights, he was in fact a hired hand, supplied with pen
paper and office space by ISKCON, and therefore the copyrights
belonged to ISKCON. They claimed there never was a BBT formed by Srila
Prabhupada, that Hansadutta was never a trustee of any BBT. But the
court did not uphold their point of view, and subsequently ISKCON and
their lying, cheating gundas and editors had to make a settlement to
escape disaster.
Factually the copyright claimed by ISKCON or BBT-international (a
bogus shadow organization of the original BBT formed by Srila
Prabhupada) has been legally lost to the public domain, and anyone and
everyone who likes can print Srila Prabhupada's books freely. It is
being done as we speak and no one will dare to challenge anyone who
chooses to print Prabhupada's books, because ISKCON knows if they go
to court they cannot prevail. Fearing a legal ruling that the
copyrights are in the public domain they will not prosecute anyone for
copyright infringement. Besides that, they have no more money to fight
in the court. Let everyone print the books of Srila Prabhupada to
their hearts content, rest assured ISKCON will not take any action,
because they have long ago lost their claim to legal copyright
protection. I should know, I was in the eye of the hurricane. Your
servant, Hansadutta
[PADA: That the copyright is officially public domain has not yet been
done legally, rather the legal process mentioned above established
that the BBT still has the rights. Yet the idea above that the GBC is
like a snake without teeth may have some substance. Time will tell how
this will work out. thanks pd]
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HISTORY 1976
1975
By 1975 some of the "cheating techniques" for distributing
Prabhupada's books were already evolving and he became alarmed.
Prabhupada wrote in a letter to one of the leaders named "Rupanuga,"
"Regarding the controversy about book distribution techniques. You are
right. Our occupation must be honest. Everyone should adore our
members as honest. If we do something which is deteriorating to the
popular sentiment of the public in favor of our movement, that is not
good. Somehow or other we should not become unpopular in the public
eye. These dishonest methods must be stopped. It is hampering our
reputation all over the world" (9 January 1975).
Prabhupada also spoke about the "cheating techniques" issue to other
leaders and he mentioned this point in a number of letters. The
society had to be careful not to develop a bad reputation, especially
by using illegal tactics to collect funds. At the same time Prabhupada
often repeated his idea that the Governing Body members take over the
responsibilities of managing the movement so that he could be free
from being concerned with these problems: "This is the duty of the
Governing Body, to see that all our members are becoming fixed in
Krishna's service." (12 January 1975)
"My Dear Gurukrpa Swami: Please accept my blessings. I am in due
receipt of your letter addressed to Rupanuga das dated September 16,
1975 and have noted the contents. Why is there this politics? This is
not good. If politics come, then the preaching will be stopped. That
is the difficulty. As soon as politics come, everything is spoiled. In
the Gaudiya Math the politics is still going on. My Guru Maharaja left
in 1936, and now it is 1975, so after 40 years the litigation is still
going on. Do not come to this. I hope this meets you in good health."
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1976
In 1976 Tamal was emerging as a sort of imperious leader of "the
biggest book distribution party." Essentially, his "Radha Damodara"
traveling bus program was visiting Prabhupada's temples all across
America where Tamal would "steal the temple's manpower." In other
words, while visiting the temples Tamal would try to convince the
innocent rank and file temple members, especially the unmarried male
students, to leave the temples and join his project. Tamal would say,
"Living in the temple is a big illusion. The temples are mainly
managed by the householders, who are inferior to us sannyasas." In
other words Tamal was generating a sort of artificial class
designation system, Prabhupada's temples were "places of illusion,"
whereas his program was "fully transcendental." Tamal also had
powerful allies such as Dristadyumna swami, a person who by the way
has never recovered from Tamal's false "pedigree pecking order system"
even to the present day. This is why Dristadyumna is currently working
with Narayana Maharaja of Mathura, another big supporter of the false
sannyasa clique especially after 1977. Even back in 1976, the sannyasa
clique was sometimes jokingly referred to as "the false designation
party," since they thought of themselves as great renunciates although
they were regularly being exposed in scandals and so on. Later on,
after 1977, the same sannyasa group was sometimes referred to as "the
orange (clad) Mafia." In other words, these leaders were not always
trusted by the rank and file all along and as such, behind the scenes
jokes were being made about them.
The problem in 1976 was that "Tamal's personal project" had drained
away significant portions of the manpower and income that Prabhupada
had wanted, and indeed he had ordered to maintain his temples and
farms. The temple managers thus began to complain, "Tamal is hijacking
Prabhupada's Krishna movement." Prabhupada confirmed this saying,
"Tamal is ruining my movement." Certainly Tamal was placing a
stranglehold on the movement's finances and manpower, since the "men
and money" were shifting away from Prabhupada's control and into
Tamal's control. Many of the temples were already running on a small
scale manpower base. And when Tamal removed (hijacked?) even a few
people, as he often did all in one day, the result could be
devastating for a temple. Therefore, to counteract Tamal's program the
temple presidents gathered together at Mayapura and essentially
petitioned Prabhupada jointly, stating that thanks to Tamal their task
of running the temples was nearly impossible. Prabhupada agreed with
the assessment of the temple presidents and he began to criticize
Tamal. As we shall see this was a recurring problem. Prabhupada had
already said the same type of things, starting in the early 1970s,
"Why is Tamal exercising his absolute authority, he should not disturb
the temple presidents," and so on.
Prabhupada was very upset and he summed, "Tamal is making everything
topsy turvy." Prabhupada decided to exile Tamal for the time being and
he said, "Tamal must go to China," which was his method of solving the
crisis, essentially placing Tamal in exile. However, Tamal balked at
this and he argued with Prabhupada, "The Radha Damodara program is my
program, the members are all my men, you cannot take them away from
me, and I will not got to China." Tamal vociferously argued with
Prabhupada, exactly as we had seen Shyamsundara and other leaders
argue with Prabhupada. In any event, shortly after this a sort of
compromise was reached where Tamal would spend some of his time in
China and still keep control of "the Radha Damodara bus party," but
Tamal promised not to continue his policy of draining away the
manpower from the temples.
Thus, at this time an important precedent was established by
Prabhupada. The rank and file devotees and especially the
(householder) temple presidents could oppose and veto a Governing Body
member. They could even veto the entire Governing Body and discount
their resolutions, if they united. This was Prabhupada's method of
creating a sort of "checks and balances" against the sannyasa clique.
Unfortunately, it appears that Prabhupada's allowing this system to
evolve may have merely angered Tamal and members of his clique. By
this process also notice, Prabhupada was placing more control into the
hands of the householders, and taking power away from the sannyasa
clique. In any case "the troubles" within the Hare Krishna Movement
lies not solely with the sannyasa clique leaders. Temple presidents
and even the rank and file could have acted to curtail the
machinations of the leaders, especially if they united in protest, and
Prabhupada had encouraged that process.
Today some think that when Tamal lost this power struggle he merely
became very angry with Prabhupada and he thus held a grudge against
Prabhupada after this incident. Clearly, Tamal was trying to "takeover
Prabhupada's movement" by usurping most of the manpower and control of
finances for his own program. He even argued with Prabhupada that the
manpower and assets he was taking (hijacking) away from Prabhupada's
movement were "his." So Tamal may have thought that he was the de
facto or main proprietor of the Krishna Movement since he assumed he
was "the brains" or "the mastermind" behind some of the preaching
efforts. This same psychology evolved in the 1930s Gaudiya Matha, one
of the deviant leaders there named "Tirtha Maharaja" had tried to take
over the assets of the whole mission after the departure of their guru
(Srila Saraswati) in 1936. And Prabhupada said that Tirtha did this
because he thought he was his guru's "business partner." The butler
sometimes thinks he has "a right" to use or inherit the assets of the
master as well.
Of course Tamal's party was distributing large quantities of
Prabhupada's books and millions of dollars were being collected
monthly which somehow or other was used to produce hundreds and
thousands of Prabhupada's books. Thus many devotees thought that the
friction between Tamal and Prabhupada was all "transcendental." Yet
for those of us who heard about the way Tamal had vociferously argued
with Prabhupada, this made us feel very uneasy about the situation. I
suppose, in the back of the minds of some of us, we had some concern
for Prabhupada's physical safety since some of these leaders had
argued so vociferously with him and seemed to have very little real
respect and concern for him. There was the unspoken thought amongst
some of us, "These leaders are envious of Prabhupada, something bad
may occur to Prabhupada."
Why Prabhupada had kept Tamal as a servant is perhaps why Jesus had
kept such a dubious person as Judas as his servant. This phenomena has
occurred with other saints in the past. Saints often extend their
mercy to those who least deserve it. In short, some of Prabhupada's
"big leaders" had talked to him in a challenging spirit, and this was
going on even at the beginning in 1968 with Kirtanananda's takeover
attempt. Some of us viewed these incidents differently. Some the rank
and file thought, "They (the Governing Body) are vastly spiritually
advanced, never mind that they are speaking in such an odious manner
even to Prabhupada." Meanwhile, people like myself were thinking,
"Some of these leaders have no respect for Prabhupada as evidenced by
the manner in which they talk to him, as evidenced by the way they are
trying in various ways to takeover his mission, as evidenced by the
way they belittle the other devotees as insignificant, and so on, and
as such: they have little or no spiritual advancement." Time has
proven our assessment to have been correct, and this was also what
Prabhupada himself had been saying behind the scenes, "I am very
depressed by the recent incidences in Germany. It is now evident that
some of our top men are very much ambitious and there has been so many
fall downs" (27 January 1975).
In other words Prabhupada said openly that he was "depressed with --
the ever increasing ambitions -- of some of the leaders." Prabhupada
also said that in 1936 his own guru (Srila Saraswati) had also
concluded that his top leaders were ambitious, so his guru became
depressed at the end of his life. He would not eat when given food,
and he sometimes threw the food on the floor. He grew a beard in
protest, and indeed he "would have lived for many more years, but he
left the planet in disgust." This is a rather remarkable parallel,
that these same types of events evolved in Prabhupada's guru's mission
in the 1930s, and now he was having the same "troubles" with his own
"ambitious disciples" in the 1970s. "History repeats." Prabhupada also
never approved of the ambitious leaders of the Gaudiya Matha in the
1930s and he said not only did they disturb his guru greatly, they
caused his guru to leave the planet early. You could say, they made
Srila Saraswati die. They also gave Prabhupada himself "depression,
repression, compression." There is also a persistent rumor that Tirtha
maharaja had given poisonous "injections" to Srila Saraswati in 1936
to facilitate "taking over."
Not too surprisingly, a leader in the Gaudiya Matha named Narayana
Maharaja said in 1990 that the same "ambitious people" who drove Srila
Saraswati away, actually they caused his death in 1936 either by
making him disgusted or by poison injections, and they were later
giving Prabhupada "depression, repression, oppression," are his idea
of bona fide "gurus." And Narayana Maharaja also supported that the
same class of "ambitious leaders" in Prabhupada's movement, that they
are also gurus after 1977. So there is a sort of clique or club of
these false gurus that support one another. Indeed Narayana Maharaja
recently cited that "there is nothing wrong" with these motivated
leaders taking over their guru's seat, even if they are homosexuals
who orchestrate murders of dissenters. In other words, a mutual
respect club for false gurus existed in the 1930s, and so Prabhupada's
leaders were now following in their footsteps. Not too surprisingly,
the post-1977 Governing Body leaders declared that the post-1936
Gaudiya Matha leaders were their "advisors" after 1977. The question
being begged now is, were these Gaudiya Matha deviants already
consulting with Prabhupada's leaders in the 1970s, inducing them to
behave as renegades as some of them were? Prabhupada had already said
that some of his leaders were indeed consulting with some of these
Gaudiya Matha folks in 1970, and that the ill behaviors of his
leaders, which Prabhupada said was "the poison," was coming from his
"envious God brothers." The real question being begged now is, were
some of these Gaudiya Matha folks involved in the "poisoning with
arsenic plot" to assassinate Prabhupada? How deeply and for how long
did "the consultations" between the deviants from the Gaudiya Matha
and Prabhupada's Governing Body members go on?
Anyway, in 1976 Prabhupada also did not approve of the constant
harassing of the householder class by Tamal and his sannyasa clique.
At the time we were glad that the system of managing was being changed
so that the householders could "veto" the "resolutions" of the
sannyasa clique, yet Tamal was not happy with this arrangement. He
would eventually plot methods to overthrow this order as well, and
revive his sannyasa clique. Again, this was part of the whole
"householder problem" where Tamal's clique had previously wanted to
ship off all the householders to Australia and have the temples
exclusively manned by unmarried males, a sort of cloistered monk's
program. He was preaching that the temples were places of illusion
since they were being run by householders. So this was a chronic
problem, Tamal and his clique were trying to erode the position of the
householders while Prabhupada was trying to build up and encourage the
householders. For example Prabhupada used to say that his householders
were far better preachers than the sannyasas of the Gaudiya Matha.
Perhaps the main practical reason that Prabhupada tolerated Tamal and
his club was that some of them were in fact a good organizers, and as
such Tamal was at least funding the publication of Prabhupada's books.
Prabhupada often said that his most important project was that, "I
want to see all of my books printed while I am still alive." He used
to warn ominously, "As soon as I depart the book publishing will
stop." In sum, Prabhupada was worried that his books would never be
printed, especially if he did not see that being done while he was
here, and he was quite elderly. Thus, there was very little time for
him to organize all of this: to get his books translated; to have the
translations polished; to have the texts placed into the elaborate
pre-press process; to have the sanskrit transliterations added; to
have the illustrations painted; then to have the books printed,
shipped out, and distributed. Prabhupada summed up his idea to bring
back Tamal as a manager on May 4, 1976. "I have met with Tamal and it
appears impractical to send anyone to China at this time. I am
requesting him to resume his old position as manager of the Radha
Damodar party. Book distribution is my most important concern and
these devotees should be given facility to distribute books profusely
though out America."
Thus Prabhupada's main concern at the time was to get his books
printed and distributed. It is now evident that these were indeed bona
fide concerns on his part since after he departed many of his books
became "out of print" and some of the Governing Body members began to
instead use the Hare Krishna movement's funds to print their own
totally bogus publications, or they simply squandered funds on their
own personal extravagant lifestyles instead of publishing the
society's books. "Prabhupada's book distribution" went down
drastically after Prabhupada departed. Similarly, the distribution of
Prabhupada's flagship magazine "Back To Godhead" dwindled from
millions of copies being circulated per year in 1976 to only a few
thousand copies nowadays. Prabhupada also said that his worse concern
was that "my books will be changed" after he departed. Thus he wanted
at least to see unedited editions of his books printed so that some
copies would be extant. Sure enough, as soon as he departed the
Governing Body commissioned Jayadvaita swami (Jay Israel) to
immediately begin to alter all of Prabhupada's books, and create false
interpretations of his instructions. For example Jayadvaita has been a
big leader and supporter of the Governing body's enforced cult
ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles regime, which he claims
is established through Prabhupada's books.
Simultaneously in 1976, some of the big sannyasas began to increase
their "preaching" that it was bona fide to cheat people out of their
money by giving them "less change" when selling them a book. For
example, female devotees distributing books at the airports were
trained to get a large denomination of money, at least a twenty dollar
bill, and then to run off to the bathroom and not come out for quite
some time, while the man who gave her the money had to leave to catch
his airplane. And many other similar illegal techniques were evolving
to extract money from the public, illegally. Indeed, some of the
leaders made a video tape to teach the devotees how to cheat the
public with these various tricks. Needless to say, this was creating
quite an obnoxious perception of the movement and quite a back lash
from the public. These "cheating" activities were already giving the
movement a very bad reputation in 1975 and it was getting worse by
1976.
Simultaneously, in May of 1976, one of the most famous sannyasas at
that time named Madhuvisa swami resigned from the Governing Body while
he was being investigated for various improprieties. A big scandal
came out shortly after this, that he was having illicit sex with a
number of his young female students and so on. Meanwhile, another type
of scandal was brewing, some of the Laguna Beach temple's devotees
were allegedly selling drugs from the temple's property and some of
them were being exposed, and so this too would soon blossom into a
major publicity scandal. Thus, while the books were being printed,
other elements of the society were fraying at the edges and this was
even being noticed by the general public.
Therefore in the summer of 1976 I had felt that things were not going
as they should be. Some of the sannyasa clique were becoming more and
more imperious and callous to the rank and file devotees. The public
perception of the movement was, in the words of Prabhupada himself,
"deteriorating." Some of the sannyasa clique were opposed to the
second echelon of leaders, namely the temple presidents. Vigorous
debates were going on all over, "Who would wield more control, the
householders or the sannyasas"? Some of the other sannyasas had tried
to support Tamal's attempt to overthrow the temple presidents. All of
this was only solved, or actually held back for the time being, when
Prabhupada himself intervened in this crisis. Once again Prabhupada he
had to tell everyone they were simply disturbing his translation work.
Worse, some of the sannyasas were openly disrespectful to Prabhupada.
Overall, it was clear that the sannyasas as a group were not listening
to the wishes and needs of the householders, indeed they were
alienating the householders. And now they were alienating the public.
Nor did they seem to be listening to Prabhupada either? In other
words, simultaneously there was the combined effect of an increase in
criminal activity, an increase in dubious book distribution tactics,
an increase in spectacular failures from the sannyasa class, an
increase in attempts to exploit women, and simultaneously, a dramatic
decrease in the public chanting (samkirtana) which had given the
movement a favorable public perception -- in the first place?
So I started to think of a means to counteract all of this negativity.
In early 1976 I started working with a small group of devotees who
were going out on Hollywood Boulevard in Los Angeles to conduct the
Hare Krishna movement's traditional "samkirtana," or public singing
and chanting, which was the process that was used to start the
movement in the first place in the early 1970s. "Sam" means: a group
of people, and "kirtan" means: to sing, or actually to sing mantras
that glorify Krishna. We used musical instruments and chanted in the
way that the movement had done previously. And right away people on
the street were asking us, "What happened to you people, where did you
go"? So the public was already aware that "the public chanting" had
more or less -- ceased. The "public samkirtana" had been featured
favorably in news media starting in the early 1970s, so I thought we
should revive this process and thereby resurrect the favorable public
image. Simultaneously, I thought we should start a "reading class" of
Prabhupada's books, particularly his most recently published books
called "Chaitanya Charitamrita." In other words, we were indirectly
criticizing the heavy handed cheating tactics and lack of public
chanting that was giving the movement a negative public image.
Needless to say, our effort infuriated Tamal and his sannyasa clique
members. They realized that we were indirectly undermining their plans
and so they devised a means to counteract us. So Tamal and his allies
began to spread rumors that members of our group: were accepting
another guru from India other than Prabhupada; were working with
deviants like Nitai dasa; we were smoking marijuana; we were having
orgies; we were making women pregnant in our meetings; we were
advocating the "sahajiya" philosophy that mixes illicit sex, drugs --
and Krishna's pastimes; and so on and so forth. Thus, one morning
Revatinandana swami approached me and he asked, "Purajnana, are you
really smoking marijuana, accepting another guru, wearing saris, and
having orgies"? I said, "No, why do you ask"? And Revatinandana said,
"Well that is what Tamal was telling Prabhupada that you were doing
this morning during his morning walk. I think Tamal is making a smear
campaign against you, and I have seen enough of these contrived witch
hunts from Tamal and his gang. By the way, Tamal is also making a
contrived smear campaign against me, I also think that Tamal might
have directly or indirectly killed my cousin Vishnujana swami, so I am
leaving the movement." And he left the Hare Krishna movement at this
time as a protest against Tamal and his policies.
So I decided to write Prabhupada a letter to clarify some of this. I
openly described in the letter that our group had not accepted another
guru, we were not smoking marijuana and so on and so forth. A few days
later Pusta Krishna swami, who was Prabhupada's secretary at the time,
approached me and he said, "Wow, how did you like that nice letter you
got from Prabhupada"? I said, "What letter, I never got it"?
Therefore, Prabhupada had received my letter, he had dictated a reply
to me to be typed, the reply was duly typed and then signed by him,
and he had ordered that it should be delivered to me, but it was not?
Moreover the reply was favorable to me. The transparent conclusion
was: some of the leaders, and probably Tamal, had intercepted my
letter and he had hid, lost or destroyed it. This was actually a very
good lesson for me and I am glad that it occurred.
Now it was clear that some of the leaders were intentionally giving
misleading information to Prabhupada, they were altering Prabhupada's
statements, or they were hiding or destroying his statements. In sum,
they were still trying to hijack his movement, hijack his letters,
hijack his devotees, hijack his statements and orders, and -- take
over his mission for themselves. Perhaps, they would "hijack"
Prabhupada's life, and poison him as well? In short, all of this must
have severely frustrated the sannyasa clique, they were always trying
to get rid of people like me, whereas Prabhupada was always trying to
keep and encourage people like me? So, if they could just get rid of
Prabhupada, that would solve their (imperious and ambitious)
"problems"? Sure enough, as soon as Prabhupada departed (he was
poisoned by Tamal's clique) Tamal stated, "Now we must purge all of
the envious people out of the movement" (i.e. anyone who does not
worship me as the next guru and God's living spokesman on earth). In
short, anyone who wanted to worship Prabhupada, and not Tamal, was
"envious."
A few days after the "missing letter" incident, I was in the Los
Angeles temple for the morning program and I felt that someone was
staring at my back. Sure enough, I turned around and it was Tamal who
was giving me a very icy glare. Tamal came up and snapped at me
angrily, "I know you Puranjana, you are just waiting for Prabhupada to
die so you can sit in his seat." This is rather amazing when we
consider that about one year later, it was Tamal who was in fact
sitting in Prabhupada's seat? Again this was another good lesson for
me, some of these big leaders were thinking, "Prabhupada is going to
die soon and some of us will be fighting to be sitting in his seat, as
the next guru"? This was foremost on their minds, that "Prabhupada
would die very soon and someone would be sitting on his seat," this
was their meditation. Right after Prabhupada departed in 1977, Tamal
was personally helping the building a guru seat, a "vyasasana," with
his own hammer and nails, he was making a "Prabhupada seat" that he
could sit on for himself, and he "took over" Prabhupada's room in
Bombay, for himself. He wanted Prabhupada's seat, Prabhupada's room,
Prabhupada's guru title, and so on. And of course deviants from the
Gaudiya Matha like Sridhara and Narayana Maharaja helped Tamal into
that seat after 1977.
Thus, in 1976 I would not let Tamal depress or upset me, since he had
a tendency to harass other devotees and drive them away or drive them
into bouts of depression. Supposedly, Tamal had already made
Vishnujana swami "commit suicide" a few months earlier. Tamal had
apparently told Vishnujana he was not worthy to be in the sannyasa
clique. Of course, Vishnujana's body was never found and some
suspected that Tamal might have had a hand in his strange
"disappearance," and in sum that his departure may not have been
suicide, there may have been a plot to get rid of Vishnujana since he
also did not agree with Tamal's managing approach. So I said to myself
that since Tamal was expert at driving people to depression, perhaps
making people even disappear, and Prabhupada had recently said Tamal
was making the whole movement topsy turvy, I was not going to let him
make me upset. As it turns out, Tamal was later linked to "talking to
Gopijana balabha" and making him commit suicide, and then there are
supposedly three or four other cases of suicide and one attempted
suicide all linked to these victims "talking to Tamal." Besides, I
knew that Prabhupada had wrote me a favorable letter so it really did
not make much difference what Tamal said or did?
A few days after this, Prabhupada abruptly left Los Angeles and he
failed to perform some scheduled initiation ceremonies. As it turns
out, on his way out the door Prabhupada stopped and let his servants
go forward to the car. A woman was sitting on the garden wall in front
of the temple. Prabhupada turned to her and said, "I have to get out
of here, these people want to kill me." A few days after this,
Prabhupada's secretary Pusta Krishna left the movement. When he spoke
with me about my missing letter he had looked very upset at this
incident and perhaps this is what convinced him to get away from the
association of Tamal and the sannyasa gang.
Rather oddly, as it turns out, about a year later in 1977 Tamal was
telling sannyasa clique member Satsvarupa swami, "Prabhupada wanted us
to give him something (i.e. poison) to make him die." This is recorded
on audio tape. When I downloaded this tape onto my ancient p-133
computer a few years ago, the audio file became corrupted and so only
a portion of the tape began to play on my computer. The only portion
that came through was, "make him die," and it kept repeating on my
computer in an endless loop, "make him die, make him die, make him
die, make him die." It is my opinion now that this "computer mistake"
was perhaps not an accident, some higher authority wanted to make sure
I was getting this message clearly: elements of the sannyasa clique
had wanted to -- get rid of Prabhupada -- they wanted to "give him
something to -- make him die." That they poisoned him is de facto
admitted to on this tape as well. The point here is that some of the
sannyasa clique were even discussing in their private meetings the
topic of: giving Prabhupada "something" (clearly this means: poisoning
him) -- to make him die. So when Tamal told me, "You are waiting for
Prabhupada to die so you can sit in his seat," this is a reflection of
what some of the sannyasa clique were thinking perhaps all along from
1967, they wanted him to die so they could sit in his seat. And they
were tired of waiting, and so "Prabhupada wanted us to give him
something to make him die" is a reflection of the fact that they could
not wait for him to die, they had to accelerate the process, they had
to give him poison so they could realize their ambitions and -- sit in
his seat. As occured.
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August 1976 Letter: All GBC Secretaries. "Under no circumstances can
any GBC or Temple President accept any money from these devotees. This
business has to be stopped at once. A business profession must be very
honest -- above all suspicion. His Divine Grace said 'I am trying to
retire from management to translate but if these things come then how
can I translate. I have set up the framework and everything should be
done within the framework. Kindly see that this business is stopped at
once.'" Your servants, Gargamuni Swami GBC
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